Thanks Stefan
Yes, I think you're absolutely right.
Unless anybody is able to physically search the airframe, I guess no one can be 100% certain as to its identity.
Hopefully, the true story will evolve in due course.
Regards
Kevin
From: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com [mailto:cactus-wings@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 12 December 2015 10:34
To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cactuswings 3458] LOG : KVCV 17-11-2015
Thanks Keith,
in that case i think we are looking at the Internet phenomenon where information is simply repeated -in good faith- from another online source. Without being able to verify that source, but by spreading the info over various sites making it appear even more credible in the process.
Same happened to the Hellenic Imperial B747 at Marana being mis-quoeted as "SX-TIE" which has been repeated in numerous logs and pics, and indeed that incorrect info is still out there. (It is former D-ABZE painted in a color scheme that was only worn by SX-TIE from the HIA B747 that were in service)
Made the same mistake myself re-using a registration of a LAN A340 stored at Marana spreading the wrong registration in the process!
ANA B767s
JA8256 JA8257 JA8258 JA8259 JA8271 JA8272 all arrived VCV in 2012
JA8273 JA8274 JA8275 arrived in 2013
JA8287 JA8288 arrived in 2014
JA8290 JA8291 JA8363 JA8368 in 2015
The list isn't probably even complete.
In any case i visited VCV in March 2014 and there was ONE ANA B767 present and we did see all aircraft at VCV that day.
It is believed to be either JA8274 or JA8275, but that is not confirmed. It *could* have been JA8273 - but i am highly sceptical they would taken a random 767 from all the arrivals and NOT scrap it in sequence, nor scrapping it swiftly - which they both did at all airports where they retired aircraft.
Highly, highly unlikely that JA8273 is kept to survive for almost three years by now. Though i am sure we will never really know the way the ANA B767 are concealed just day(s) after they arrive.
Regards
Stefan
From: Kevin Evans <acftus@tiscali.co.uk>
To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [cactuswings 3457] LOG : KVCV 17-11-2015
There is a picture on Airliners.net taken in September 2014 and another report in May of this year. Maybe they just didn't break it up as quickly as normal.
Cheers
Kevin
From: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com [mailto:cactus-wings@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 11 December 2015 09:24
To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cactuswings 3456] LOG : KVCV 17-11-2015
Keith, surprised to see JA8273 mentioned which arrived in VCV beg/2013 (along with a few others) and usually ANA aircraft are not hanging around long before being scrapped (happened to 767 and also A320 and 735 in MZJ,VCV,TUS..) - is this confirmed? MfG, Stefan
From: Kevin Evans <acftus@tiscali.co.uk>
To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: [cactuswings 3455] LOG : KVCV 17-11-2015
Hi
The two other ANA 767s would be JA8273 and JA8291
The Qantas 767s would be N207CR (VH-OGU) which is bound for SF Airlines.
Hope this helps
Kevin
From: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com [mailto:cactus-wings@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of tu154b2
Sent: 06 December 2015 10:38
To: cactuswings <cactus-wings@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [cactuswings 3447] LOG : KVCV 17-11-2015
Hi
A visit and an overflight of VCV on the 17-11-2015 produced the following log.
Only a few frames remained unidentified.
Any help appreciated.
4 ex ANA 767 were visible.
Recent arrival JA8368 and JA8290 on scrapping line were identified, 2 others had no ID.
6 ex QFA B767s were seen, and 5 was read off.
A tatty looking 767 inside a hangar remained unidentified.
Seen was VH-OGG/H/K/Q/V
heres the log:
Pictures for reference is attached.
N416FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
B-18703 | B744 | CAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
G-BNLE | B744 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
ZK-SUH | B744 | ANZ | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
B-HME | B742 | CPA | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
G-BNLI | B744 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
B-18202 | B744 | CAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
N369FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
N577FE | MD11 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
B-18251 | B744 | CAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
N168CL | B744 | CAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
N312FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
B-HVZ | B742 | CPA | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
G-BNWD | B763 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
N68051 | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
D-ALCR | MD11 | CLH | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
D-ALCS | MD11 | CLH | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
G-BNLT | B744 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
G-BNLS | B744 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
N366FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 1 | |
N716FD | A300 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N720FD | A300 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
B-18705 | B744 | CAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
B-18702 | B744 | CAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N430FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N718FD | A300 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N397FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N377FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N790FD | B752 | ex UAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N813FD | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-DOCO | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-BNLR | B744 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N371FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-DOCX | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N417FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N789FD | B752 | ex UAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N556FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N418FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-DOCW | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N68087 | B752 | ex UAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N782FD | B752 | ex UAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N815FD | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N425FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N445FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N644FE | MD11 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N68052 | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N580FE | MD11 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N527FE | MD11 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N399FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N421FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N317FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N313SQ | B744 | ex SIA | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N410FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N450FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N812FD | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
B-16108 | MD11 | EVA | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N374FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-BNWO | B763 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N436FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-BNLM | B744 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N68092 | MD11 | WOA | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N238AG | B734 | aw | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N799FD | B752 | ex UAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N816FD | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N68093 | MD11 | WOA | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N460BC | MD11 | CARGO ITALIA | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N806FD | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N853AT | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N419FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
B-16110 | MD11 | EVA | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-BNLU | B744 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N302FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N781FD | B752 | ex UAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-DOCU | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N68085 | B752 | ex UAL oc | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
G-BNWC | B763 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N387FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 2 | |
N814FD | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N402FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N456FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N842AT | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N68084 | B752 | ex AIZ | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N802FD | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N817FD | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N844AU | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N395FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N860AU | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N848AU | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N859AU | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N267AT | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N382BC | MD11 | AFL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N380BC | MD11 | AFL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N383BC | MD11 | AFL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
G-DOCE | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N774FD | B752 | ex UAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N579FE | MD11 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N858AT | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N569FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N68050 | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N253CL | N100FE | B752 | aw | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 |
N175AG | A319 | Ex ? | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N68054 | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N403FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N407AU | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N68057 | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N367FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
G-BNLG | B744 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N542BC | B762 | ex AMX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N405FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N645FE | MD11 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N447FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N133DN | B763 | DAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N134DL | B763 | DAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N132DN | B763 | DAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N173DN | B763 | DAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N386FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N411FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N792FD | B752 | ex UAL | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
G-DOCS | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N524FE | MD11 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N431FE | A310 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
G-DOCV | B734 | BAW | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N398FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N392FE | DC10 | FDX | MAIN STORAGE GROUP 3 | |
N480FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N280FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N462FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
G-DOCG | B734 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N314DA | B732 | DAL | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N274FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N828AL | B732 | ALOHA | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N490FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N283FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
G-DOCH | B734 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N331UA | B733 | UAL | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N837AL | B732 | ALOHA | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N284FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N282FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N286FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N463FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N281FE | B722 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N74PW | B732 | ex CARIBBEAN | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N805NA | LJ24 | BIZZ | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
UNKN | UH1 | USAF | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 1 | |
N563FE | DC10 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
N602UA | B762 | UAL | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
N68059 | DC10 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
G-BNLA | B744 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
UNKN | DC10 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
G-BNLD | B744 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
B-HVX | B742 | CPA | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
G-BNWH | B763 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
G-BNLH | B744 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
G-BNWR | B763 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
N384FE | DC10 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
G-BNWU | B763 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
N388FE | DC10 | FDX | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
G-BNWN | B763 | BAW | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
N615UA | B762 | UAL | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
B-HMD | B742 | CPA | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
B-HOZ | B744 | CPA | ROWS ALONG RWY ROW 2 | |
N793FD | B752 | ex UAL | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N435FE | A310 | FDX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N428FE | A310 | FDX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N220AU | DC10 | ORBIS | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N512DA | B722 | DAL | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N185FE | B721 | FDX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N128UW | A320 | AAL | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
F-OLRA | B772 | AUS | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N974VV | DC10 | OMEGA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N274LE | AC690 | BIZZ | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N176AG | A319 | Ex ? | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N277AC | B737 | YAKUTIA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N271AG | B737 | YAKUTIA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N248AY | B762 | USA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N545BC | MD11 | ETH | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N394BC | B772 | aw | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N603FE | MD11 | FDX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N249AU | B762 | USA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
ET-AML | MD11 | ETH | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N443FE | A310 | FDX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N423FE | A310 | FDX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
UNKN | B744 | ex QFA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N728CG | XA-FRJ | B762 | AMX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W |
N197CR | VH-OGP | B763 | QFA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W |
B-18801 | A343 | CAL | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
B-18802 | A343 | CAL | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N330AU | DC10 | ex FDX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
UNKN | in hangar | B763 | ex QFA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W |
B-16109 | MD11 | EVA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
LN-RPH | B736 | SAS | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
VH-OGG | B763 | QFA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
VH-OGH | B763 | QFA | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
N362FE | DC10 | FDX | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W | |
UNKN | in hangar | B722? | bare metal | APRONS AND HANGARS E->W |
JA8290 | scrapping area | B763 | ex ANA | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING |
N419AG | scrapping area | A319 | aw | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING |
UNKN | scrapping area | B763 | ex ANA | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING |
N707SE | scrapping area | B703 | OMEGA | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING |
N262FE | scrapping area | B722 | FDX | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING |
LV-ZPJ | A343 | ARG | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
LV-ZPO | A343 | ARG | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
LV-ZPX | A343 | ARG | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
N91011 | L1011 | ex LUZ | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
EI-FLD | B772 | aw | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
N285CQ | B772 | aw | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
EI-FGT | B772 | aw | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
UNKN | B763 | ex ANA | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
N887BA | B788 | aw | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
N995CF | DC86F | aw | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
N797AL | DC86F | EWW | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
UNKN | B763 | ex ANA | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
UNKN | forward fuse | B722 | DAL | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING |
N729DA | L1011 | DAL | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
JA8368 | B763 | ANA | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
EI-FLE | B772 | aw | MIDFIELD AND SCRAPPING | |
VH-OJO | B744 | QFA | WEST END STORAGE | |
VH-OJL | B744 | QFA | WEST END STORAGE | |
VH-OJN | B744 | QFA | WEST END STORAGE | |
VH-OJP | B744 | QFA | WEST END STORAGE | |
VH-OGK | B763 | QFA | WEST END STORAGE | |
VH-OGQ | B763 | QFA | WEST END STORAGE | |
N256AY | B762 | USA | WEST END STORAGE | |
UP-DC102 | DC10 | DETA | WEST END STORAGE | |
N949NS | MD82 | USJ | WEST END STORAGE | |
N975AS | MD82 | ASA | WEST END STORAGE | |
N252AU | B762 | USA | WEST END STORAGE | |
N810AX | DC10 | OAX | WEST END STORAGE | |
HZ-AB1 | L1011 | BIZZ | WEST END STORAGE | |
N251AY | B762 | USA | WEST END STORAGE | |
N250AY | B762 | USA | WEST END STORAGE | |
VH-OGV | B763 | QFA | WEST END STORAGE |
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