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Tuesday 31 July 2012

{coyotes} NHL PITCHES NEW REVENUE SHARING; "AMPLE TIME" FOR DEAL

NEW YORK -- NHL players and their union began examining the league's proposed expansion of revenue sharing as labour talks continued Tuesday.

NHLPA executive director Don Fehr says he can't make a counterproposal on the league's full package until his group receives and examines the requested team financial reports. The first batch -- 76,000 pages -- arrived late Monday night.

The meetings will continue Wednesday at the league offices in New York. More talks are scheduled next week when Fehr returns from a meeting with NHL players in Russia.

Fehr says players are "not enamoured" with proposed limitations on contract lengths and a clause that would force them to wait longer before becoming unrestricted free agents.

Commissioner Gary Bettman says "ample time" remains to make a deal before the current CBA expires Sept. 15.

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{coyotes} DOAN, JAMISON TALK TOOK PLACE SATURDAY

The Arizona Republic reports Coyotes captain Shane Doan spoke with potential buyer Greg Jamison on Saturday to receive an update on the status of Jamison's bid to purchase the Coyotes.

Doan's camp expected the phone conversation to be on Friday, but agent Terry Bross said the conversation happened a day later. Doan is in the fifth week of free agency and has attracted the attention of 16 teams, six of which have already made official offers. But the 35-year-old has waited to sign in an attempt to gain reassurance that a sale is coming so that he can remain with the Coyotes.

Jamison and the NHL continue to work toward a purchase agreement with no firm deadline yet in place.

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Monday 30 July 2012

Re: [cactuswings 1903] Re: REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

4 GOL's went to OPF for parts but these were -300.

Alexandre Avrane.
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Tobias94 wrote:
> Alexandre,
> Isn't there an ex-Maersk/Gol 737-700 that's been wfu at OPF? msn 2800x
> (I can't remember exactly). Please confirm.
>
> Thanks,
> TL
>
> On Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:14:11 AM UTC-7, Tobias94 wrote:
>
> Can anyone summarize which Jet Airways 737-700s are now at
> Greenwood, when they arrived, and which (if any) have a chance at
> returning to service?
>
> Thanks,
> TL
> Tobias Lutterodt
>
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Re: [cactuswings 1905] KCEW

Do you have a log of all aircraft that are stored in the boneyards that you could email to me please?

Thanks - Jon

On 30 July 2012 06:15, <Tolice1234@aol.com> wrote:

The Bob Sikes Airport is becoming a hidden jewel. This tiny airport in n/w florida panhandle supports a now bankrupt scrapping company who's phones were turned off at time of these photographs, yet they were still tearing them down. There is also the old CrestView Aerospace company now called L3 . They had a fleet of AC-130 in Air Force markings taking off and landing here, until i arrived, lol. There were a few airframes i could not photograph , like the A300 from that russian airline, 7 i believe, and an MD-80 being torn down at the south end of the field which is raised 25 feet above the road. No Visible security onsite other than the local sheriff hanging out at the new fire station to avoid the 105 degree temps that day.

Enjoy

James MCO

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Re: [cactuswings 1902] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

In a message dated 30/07/2012 08:17:47 GMT Daylight Time, phixer@slanham.co.uk writes:

At least 2 of the EZY aircraft were scrapped because the cost of changing the interior configuration from EZY lo-cost to a mainline European operator was too expensive. Would have needed new trim, additional galleys and new seating, etc. Both were 2004 build.

Interesting. All of the rest of the easy 737-700s did find new operators, so what was so different about these two, especially as the 3 that were scrapped were 3 of the newest ones? With a LCC interior, maybe Southwest could have used them with minor modifications, at scrap price they would have been a bargain as 733 replacements.

This whole situation is financially driven - and is very wasteful. Looking at the pictures I don't see the Jet Airways aircraft flying again, look at the Cyprus A319s, that isn't even a type with low demand!

Andy

RE: [cactuswings 1901] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

From: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com [mailto:cactus-wings@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matt weber

The decision to part out the aircraft is usually driven more by condition than configuration.

At least 2 of the EZY aircraft were scrapped because the cost of changing the interior configuration from EZY lo-cost to a mainline European operator was too expensive. Would have needed new trim, additional galleys and new seating, etc. Both were 2004 build.

Phixer

PS There would be another 6 -600’s still flying if Malev hadn’t gone bust this year.

6 737-700 have so far been parted out: 3 EasyJet, 2 Lauda, 1 ARAMCO

Sunday 29 July 2012

Re: [cactuswings 1900] Re: REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

try these 737s taken at Opa Locka in the last year.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/7145967945/in/set-72157629973960755/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6303656443/in/set-72157628033766044

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6303657937/in/set-72157628033766044/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6304183452/in/set-72157628033766044/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6303659007/in/set-72157628033766044/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6304185764/in/set-72157628033766044/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6304186012/in/set-72157628033766044/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6303685347/in/set-72157628033766044/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6387456007/in/set-72157628107275907/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6387482157/in/set-72157628107275907/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6387487993/in/set-72157628107275907/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6387493415/in/set-72157628107275907/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6387495853/in/set-72157628107275907/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6387508385/in/set-72157628107275907/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6387521505/in/set-72157628107275907/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/6387514291/in/set-72157628107275907/

James MCO

In a message dated 7/30/2012 1:11:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tobias94@yahoo.com writes:

Alexandre,
Isn't there an ex-Maersk/Gol 737-700 that's been wfu at OPF? msn 2800x (I can't remember exactly). Please confirm.

Thanks,

TL

On Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:14:11 AM UTC-7, Tobias94 wrote:

Can anyone summarize which Jet Airways 737-700s are now at Greenwood, when they arrived, and which (if any) have a chance at returning to service?

Thanks,

TL

Tobias Lutterodt

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[cactuswings 1899] KCEW

The Bob Sikes Airport is becoming a hidden jewel. This tiny airport in n/w florida panhandle supports a now bankrupt scrapping company who's phones were turned off at time of these photographs, yet they were still tearing them down. There is also the old CrestView Aerospace company now called L3 . They had a fleet of AC-130 in Air Force markings taking off and landing here, until i arrived, lol. There were a few airframes i could not photograph , like the A300 from that russian airline, 7 i believe, and an MD-80 being torn down at the south end of the field which is raised 25 feet above the road. No Visible security onsite other than the local sheriff hanging out at the new fire station to avoid the 105 degree temps that day.

Enjoy

James MCO

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/sets/72157630815227210/

[cactuswings 1899] Re: REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Alexandre,

Isn't there an ex-Maersk/Gol 737-700 that's been wfu at OPF? msn 2800x (I can't remember exactly). Please confirm.

Thanks,

TL

On Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:14:11 AM UTC-7, Tobias94 wrote:

Can anyone summarize which Jet Airways 737-700s are now at Greenwood, when they arrived, and which (if any) have a chance at returning to service?

Thanks,
TL
Tobias Lutterodt

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[cactuswings 1897] KDHN

Same story here, just 1 Aircraft visible at PEMCO even tho there were upto 4 in the hangar and paint shop.

James MCO

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/sets/72157630813522314/

[cactuswings 1896] KVQQ

Not to much going on at this airfield.

James MCO

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[cactuswings 1895] KTUP

Here are my images taken from KTUP. Mind you , these were all shot with in 40 minutes of arriving. There is a US Army outpost right in the middle of all the parked planes. Very tough to photograph, Enjoy. As usual , No tails written into descriptions.

James MCO

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/sets/72157630812073408/

Re: [cactuswings 1894] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Here is a shot of N739A at Shannon on its way to meet its end

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanair/6221403722/

Regards
Malcolm

On 29 July 2012 15:14, Jim Tomlinson <barrie.ces@virgin.net> wrote:

Anyone know why N739A 737-700 of ARAMCO was retired? I shouldn't think the problems below would apply to that airframe.

Cheers

Jim

As I recall Jet Airways was a pretty early user of the 737-700. In fact the first -700 I flew on was on Jet Airways out of IXZ (now there is an off the beaten path airport) in 1999.

The decision to part out the aircraft is usually driven more by condition than configuration. This is a especially unpleasant problem when the carrier returning the aircraft is in
serious financial difficulty. While the lease agreement generally spells out the required conditions at end of lease, as a practical matter the contract gets ignored when the carrier is in
serious financial difficulty. Parts are migrated to the aircraft being returned from all over the fleet into airframes that probably are close to D-check, the engines will be at operating limits, life limited components will generally be at end of life, and non-essential bits (galley, APU, lavs etc) will be inoperative.

Basically what gets returned is a pile of junk. The carrier of course gets billed for the cost of repair, but those claims are unsecured, so unlikely to ever be paid. It just makes more sense
to part out the aircraft than spend the tens of millions of dollars to make it commercially viable again.

At 08:19 AM 7/29/2012, you wrote:

6 737-700 have so far been parted out: 3 EasyJet, 2 Lauda, 1 ARAMCO

Alexandre Avrane.
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{coyotes} Pressing issues keep NHL offseason busy

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Usually at this time of the summer, general managers have the "gone fishing" sign posted.

But this has been a strange offseason because we are headed toward Aug. 1 and many GMs are still trolling for players or dealing with matters that will affect their team's competitiveness.

Here are eight unresolved issues that could change the balance of power:

1. Shane Doan's recruitment: Doan, 35, has made it clear he would prefer to stay in Phoenix, provided he can be convinced Greg Jamison's attempt to buy the Coyotes is on solid ground. But there's enough interest in Doan that it seems plausible some team will offer him a four-year deal with a big number attached. Imagine how Doan could freshen up the Detroit Red Wings' lineup, or the Pittsburgh Penguins', Nashville Predators' or Philadelphia Flyers', etc.

2. Roberto Luongo hasn't been traded: The Florida Panthers are the best fit for the Vancouver Canucks goalie, but GM Dale Tallon won't give up prized prospect Nick Bjugstad to land him. The Panthers are as excited about his potential as they are about Jonathan Huberdeau. Bjugstad is playing at the University of Minnesota and seems ready to play in the NHL. Luongo was popular when he played in Florida before, plus he could be the lift the team needs to offset big moves by the Carolina Hurricanes and Tampa Bay Lightning. Canucks GM Mike Gillis is acting as if he is willing to go into the season with Luongo on his roster. But that would clearly be an uncomfortable situation with Cory Schneider seemingly set to be No. 1. Plus, no GM wants a $5.333 million cap hit as his backup goalie. Keep in mind that the Toronto Maple Leafs still are interested in upgrading their goaltending.

3. Bobby Ryan still could be traded: The Anaheim Ducks would deal him only if they are wowed by an offer. But that could happen. The Flyers presumably would like to answer the Rangers' acquisition of Rick Nash. Ryan has averaged 33 goals a season for the past four seasons and he's 25. He could score another 300-plus goals before he retires.

4. Lubomir Visnovsky has filed a grievance: The defenseman believes the Ducks didn't have the right to trade him to the New York Islanders. He had a partial no-trade clause, which he waived in 2009 so he could be moved from the Edmonton Oilers to Anaheim. An arbitrator will have to decide whether Visnovsky had permanently surrendered his no-trade when he agreed to the 2009 deal. He would be a nice fit for an Islanders team that needs to make the playoffs. Plus, the Islanders need his $5.6 million cap hit to help them get to the salary cap floor.

5. Useful players still available: In addition to Doan, several intriguing free agents remain, including Jason Arnott, Carlo Colaiacovo, Pavel Kubina, Petr Sykora, Brett Clark, Andrei Kostitsyn, etc.

6. Coyotes ownership isn't finalized: In addition to holding up Doan's decision, the situation is making it difficult for general manager Don Maloney to know what to do improve his team. If the deal is finalized, he could be/should be in a better financial situation to make moves.

7. The 2013 free agent class might feel pressure to sign now: Nobody knows what the new collective bargaining agreement will look like. Will there be restrictions on contract lengths? Will there be a new way to calculate a salary cap hit? There could be changes that prevent athletes from landing the kind of deal that Shea Weber and Sidney Crosby received this summer. If you are Anaheim's Corey Perry, you have to think about this.

8. Predators still looking for defenseman: Although Nashville coach Barry Trotz likes the potential of Roman Josi to eventually fill Ryan Suter's skates, GM David Poile is pondering his options in the trade market. Because the Flames seem open to change, Jay Bouwmeester's name has popped up as a possibility for Nashville. But he has a no-trade clause, and he seemed intent on playing in Calgary the last time he controlled his future. Would Bouwmeester change his address to play for a better team? The Predators won't know unless they ask. They have the assets to offer the Flames an attractive package.

9. Red Wings pondering a defensive move: The Red Wings have decided they want to give Brendan Smith and Jakub Kindl a chance to play, and they have decided they won't overpay just to add a body. But the Red Wings have been too competitive for too long for them not to look at their trade options to add a veteran defenseman.

10. Feels like Toronto will make another move: GM Brian Burke is always aggressive, and the James van Riemsdyk deal might not be enough. It seems like Burke could end up with another goalie or more size and grit.

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{coyotes} Report: Jamison $20 million short of Coyotes' price tag

The prospective new owner of the Phoenix Coyotes reportedly is about $20 million short of the NHL's asking price.

Greg Jamison, a former CEO of the San Jose Sharks, is courting investors to make up the shortfall, The Sporting News reported Saturday.

Jamison, a former San Jose Sharks part-owner, is leading the latest group to bid for the Coyotes, who have been owned by the NHL since it went into bankruptcy in 2009. The NHL wants $170 million for the team.

Recently the city of Glendale -- which owns Jobing.com Arena, the team's home -- rejected petitions that would have put Jamison's lease agreement to a public vote and delay the sale. The city faces a hearing on that rejection Monday.

The NHL's pursuit of a new owner also has been blocked often by a public-policy advocacy group, the Goldwater Institute. Glendale twice has staved off the group's attempts to torpedo the lease with Jamison.

The Coyotes are coming off a season in which they won the Pacific Division and advanced to the Western Conference finals before falling to eventual NHL champion Los Angeles Kings.

NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said Saturday the league is still confident the sale would get done and the Coyotes would stay in Glendale.

The sale has held up the signing of Shane Doan, who is an unrestricted free agent. The team's captain, who has played all 17 of his NHL seasons with the franchise, has said he would like to remain with the Coyotes, but not if the team is embroiled in more politics.

Doan reportedly met with Jamison on Friday night. No details of that meeting have emerged.

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Re: [cactuswings 1893] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Picture quality is not the best. It was 99 degrees when these were taken and the sunlight was diminishing by the minute. I shot nose gear doors and tails to get the numbers , plus it was dusty , as anyone driving the dirt road adjacent to the field, starts a dust storm. From my home to gwo is almost a days drive, plus i had visited DHN,MGM,TUP before getting to GWO and i was loosing daylight. So try to muddle through the tails numbers, if it was visible,it is there. At TUP , they physically cut the tail numbers right out of the air frames , so much so you can see daylight shinning through.

James MCO

In a message dated 7/29/2012 2:12:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Tolice1234@aol.com writes:

Ok hot off the presses, my trip images to GWO are up on my flickr account. Unfortunately Group members, I have not at this time written down the tail numbers , if i had waited to do so , you'd all still be talking about it without proper answers. I photographed from every available location my 4x4 would allow me to get to. For those who wish to venture here, be advised, the back gate to the storage area is always open due to the cotton fields that lay between runways and taxiways. This still is not an invitation to walk in , and as ive shown , they now have multiple cameras and mobile security patrolling the airfield in that opened storage area, its almost like a set up.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/sets/72157630806973538/

Enjoy, as i am witting this, i am editing Tupelo, watching the nascar race , and packing to move.

James MCO

In a message dated 7/29/2012 10:18:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, barrie.ces@virgin.net writes:

Anyone know why N739A 737-700 of ARAMCO was retired? I shouldn't think
the problems below would apply to that airframe.

Cheers

Jim

>
> As I recall Jet Airways was a pretty early user of the 737-700. In
> fact the first -700 I flew on was on Jet Airways out of IXZ (now
> there is an off the beaten path airport) in 1999.
>
> The decision to part out the aircraft is usually driven more by
> condition than configuration. This is a especially unpleasant
> problem when the carrier returning the aircraft is in
> serious financial difficulty. While the lease agreement generally
> spells out the required conditions at end of lease, as a practical
> matter the contract gets ignored when the carrier is in
> serious financial difficulty. Parts are migrated to the aircraft
> being returned from all over the fleet into airframes that probably
> are close to D-check, the engines will be at operating limits, life
> limited components will generally be at end of life, and non-
> essential bits (galley, APU, lavs etc) will be inoperative.
>
> Basically what gets returned is a pile of junk. The carrier of
> course gets billed for the cost of repair, but those claims are
> unsecured, so unlikely to ever be paid. It just makes more sense
> to part out the aircraft than spend the tens of millions of dollars
> to make it commercially viable again.
>
>
>
> At 08:19 AM 7/29/2012, you wrote:
>> 6 737-700 have so far been parted out: 3 EasyJet, 2 Lauda, 1 ARAMCO
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Avrane.
>> AeroTransport Data Bank
>> http://www.aerotransport.org
>>
>
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Re: [cactuswings 1892] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Ok hot off the presses, my trip images to GWO are up on my flickr account. Unfortunately Group members, I have not at this time written down the tail numbers , if i had waited to do so , you'd all still be talking about it without proper answers. I photographed from every available location my 4x4 would allow me to get to. For those who wish to venture here, be advised, the back gate to the storage area is always open due to the cotton fields that lay between runways and taxiways. This still is not an invitation to walk in , and as ive shown , they now have multiple cameras and mobile security patrolling the airfield in that opened storage area, its almost like a set up.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boneheadsboneyards/sets/72157630806973538/

Enjoy, as i am witting this, i am editing Tupelo, watching the nascar race , and packing to move.

James MCO

In a message dated 7/29/2012 10:18:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, barrie.ces@virgin.net writes:

Anyone know why N739A 737-700 of ARAMCO was retired? I shouldn't think
the problems below would apply to that airframe.

Cheers

Jim

>
> As I recall Jet Airways was a pretty early user of the 737-700. In
> fact the first -700 I flew on was on Jet Airways out of IXZ (now
> there is an off the beaten path airport) in 1999.
>
> The decision to part out the aircraft is usually driven more by
> condition than configuration. This is a especially unpleasant
> problem when the carrier returning the aircraft is in
> serious financial difficulty. While the lease agreement generally
> spells out the required conditions at end of lease, as a practical
> matter the contract gets ignored when the carrier is in
> serious financial difficulty. Parts are migrated to the aircraft
> being returned from all over the fleet into airframes that probably
> are close to D-check, the engines will be at operating limits, life
> limited components will generally be at end of life, and non-
> essential bits (galley, APU, lavs etc) will be inoperative.
>
> Basically what gets returned is a pile of junk. The carrier of
> course gets billed for the cost of repair, but those claims are
> unsecured, so unlikely to ever be paid. It just makes more sense
> to part out the aircraft than spend the tens of millions of dollars
> to make it commercially viable again.
>
>
>
> At 08:19 AM 7/29/2012, you wrote:
>> 6 737-700 have so far been parted out: 3 EasyJet, 2 Lauda, 1 ARAMCO
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Avrane.
>> AeroTransport Data Bank
>> http://www.aerotransport.org
>>
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Re: [cactuswings 1891] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Anyone know why N739A 737-700 of ARAMCO was retired? I shouldn't think
the problems below would apply to that airframe.

Cheers

Jim

>
> As I recall Jet Airways was a pretty early user of the 737-700. In
> fact the first -700 I flew on was on Jet Airways out of IXZ (now
> there is an off the beaten path airport) in 1999.
>
> The decision to part out the aircraft is usually driven more by
> condition than configuration. This is a especially unpleasant
> problem when the carrier returning the aircraft is in
> serious financial difficulty. While the lease agreement generally
> spells out the required conditions at end of lease, as a practical
> matter the contract gets ignored when the carrier is in
> serious financial difficulty. Parts are migrated to the aircraft
> being returned from all over the fleet into airframes that probably
> are close to D-check, the engines will be at operating limits, life
> limited components will generally be at end of life, and non-
> essential bits (galley, APU, lavs etc) will be inoperative.
>
> Basically what gets returned is a pile of junk. The carrier of
> course gets billed for the cost of repair, but those claims are
> unsecured, so unlikely to ever be paid. It just makes more sense
> to part out the aircraft than spend the tens of millions of dollars
> to make it commercially viable again.
>
>
>
> At 08:19 AM 7/29/2012, you wrote:
>> 6 737-700 have so far been parted out: 3 EasyJet, 2 Lauda, 1 ARAMCO
>>
>>
>> Alexandre Avrane.
>> AeroTransport Data Bank
>> http://www.aerotransport.org
>>
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Re: [cactuswings 1890] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

As I recall Jet Airways was a pretty early user of the 737-700. In fact the first -700 I flew on was on Jet Airways out of IXZ (now there is an off the beaten path airport) in 1999.

The decision to part out the aircraft is usually driven more by condition than configuration. This is a especially unpleasant problem when the carrier returning the aircraft is in
serious financial difficulty. While the lease agreement generally spells out the required conditions at end of lease, as a practical matter the contract gets ignored when the carrier is in
serious financial difficulty. Parts are migrated to the aircraft being returned from all over the fleet into airframes that probably are close to D-check, the engines will be at operating limits, life limited components will generally be at end of life, and non-essential bits (galley, APU, lavs etc) will be inoperative.

Basically what gets returned is a pile of junk. The carrier of course gets billed for the cost of repair, but those claims are unsecured, so unlikely to ever be paid. It just makes more sense
to part out the aircraft than spend the tens of millions of dollars to make it commercially viable again.

At 08:19 AM 7/29/2012, you wrote:

6 737-700 have so far been parted out: 3 EasyJet, 2 Lauda, 1 ARAMCO

Alexandre Avrane.
AeroTransport Data Bank
http://www.aerotransport.org

Re: [cactuswings 1889] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

6 737-700 have so far been parted out: 3 EasyJet, 2 Lauda, 1 ARAMCO

Alexandre Avrane.
AeroTransport Data Bank
http://www.aerotransport.org

Phixer wrote:
> Ø I find it very hard to believe that they would scrap these
> -700's...but stranger things have happened.
>
> Ø
>
> Ø Matt
>
> I don't; it depends on their age and configuration. New-ish -600/-700's
> have been scrapped because they are too small for many operators;
> overhaul costs and re-configuration costs are too high to provide a
> return on the likely rental.
>
>
>
>
>
> Phixer
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RE: [cactuswings 1888] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

I know of plenty of -600's that have been stripped of usable parts (plenty) and scrapped, but I haven't seen too much of that with - 700's.

Matt

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On Jul 29, 2012 2:06 AM, "Phixer" <phixer@slanham.co.uk> wrote:

Ø I find it very hard to believe that they would scrap these -700's...but stranger things have happened.

Ø
Ø Matt

I don't; it depends on their age and configuration. New-ish -600/-700's have been scrapped because they are too small for many operators; overhaul costs and re-configuration costs are too high to provide a return on the likely rental.

Phixer

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RE: [cactuswings 1887] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Ø I find it very hard to believe that they would scrap these -700's...but stranger things have happened.

Ø Matt

I don’t; it depends on their age and configuration. New-ish -600/-700’s have been scrapped because they are too small for many operators; overhaul costs and re-configuration costs are too high to provide a return on the likely rental.

Phixer

Saturday 28 July 2012

Re: [cactuswings 1886] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

James MCO @ GWO 3 days ago

In a message dated 7/28/2012 2:14:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tobias94@yahoo.com writes:

Can anyone summarize which Jet Airways 737-700s are now at Greenwood, when they arrived, and which (if any) have a chance at returning to service?

Thanks,

TL

Tobias Lutterodt

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Re: [cactuswings 1905] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Scrapping is a possibility as a couple of 7 year old Easyjet 737s just been scrapped at Kemble in the UK... They were worth more in parts than sitting in the desert,

From: Matt Coleman

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:28 PM

To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: [cactuswings 1882] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

I find it very hard to believe that they would scrap these -700's...but stranger things have happened.

Matt
- Airliners International 2012 @ MEM

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On Jul 28, 2012 1:21 PM, "Thomas Jaeger / ch-aviation.ch" <thomas.jaeger@ch-aviation.ch> wrote:

Hi Tobias,

We currently list the following ex-Jet Airways aircraft as stored in Greenwood:

VT-JGB

VT-JNU

VT-JNV

VT-JNW

I do not have the exact dates handy but from what I have been told, they will at least not be returning to Jet Airways. I have heard different stories from plans for scrapping to temporary storage, so would also be interested to find out more.

Best regards and thanks a lot

Thomas Jaeger

ch-aviation GmbH

Flughafenstrasse 6

8302 Kloten

Switzerland

Tel: +41 (0)78 920 01 09

Skype: ThomasSNN

thomas.jaeger@ch-aviation.ch

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Sent: Samstag, 28. Juli 2012 20:14
To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cactuswings 1879] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Can anyone summarize which Jet Airways 737-700s are now at Greenwood, when they arrived, and which (if any) have a chance at returning to service?

Thanks,

TL

Tobias Lutterodt

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Re: [cactuswings 1885] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

I just got back from Greenwood, i didn't see that many 737s there, let me run through the images i took, and we will share them with all. I literally just got back from there, but a word to the wise, Tupelo is the NEW BONEYARD , i counted close to 35-40 frames there. I just returned from my VQQ,DHN,MGM,TUP,GWO and the Bob Sikes airport in Crestview Florida Trip.

James MCO

In a message dated 7/28/2012 2:14:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tobias94@yahoo.com writes:

Can anyone summarize which Jet Airways 737-700s are now at Greenwood, when they arrived, and which (if any) have a chance at returning to service?

Thanks,

TL

Tobias Lutterodt

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[cactuswings 1884] Req: List of Ex FedEx 727's at Victorville.

Hi All

Does anybody have a list of Stored FedEx 727's at Victorville.

Regards

Paul Looby
Dublin

My Photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/paullooby/

RE: [cactuswings 1883] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Most airliners that go to Greenwood tend to end up scrapped, I can’t think of too many that return to service. Hope I’m wrong. Cheers Keith T

From: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com [mailto:cactus-wings@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Jaeger / ch-aviation.ch
Sent: 28 July 2012 19:21
To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [cactuswings 1880] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Hi Tobias,

We currently list the following ex-Jet Airways aircraft as stored in Greenwood:

VT-JGB

VT-JNU

VT-JNV

VT-JNW

I do not have the exact dates handy but from what I have been told, they will at least not be returning to Jet Airways. I have heard different stories from plans for scrapping to temporary storage, so would also be interested to find out more.

Best regards and thanks a lot

Thomas Jaeger

ch-aviation GmbH

Flughafenstrasse 6

8302 Kloten

Switzerland

Tel: +41 (0)78 920 01 09

Skype: ThomasSNN

thomas.jaeger@ch-aviation.ch

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Sent: Samstag, 28. Juli 2012 20:14
To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cactuswings 1879] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Can anyone summarize which Jet Airways 737-700s are now at Greenwood, when they arrived, and which (if any) have a chance at returning to service?

Thanks,

Tobias Lutterodt

"We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security." - Dwight Eisenhower

RE: [cactuswings 1882] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

I find it very hard to believe that they would scrap these -700's...but stranger things have happened.

Matt
- Airliners International 2012 @ MEM

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On Jul 28, 2012 1:21 PM, "Thomas Jaeger / ch-aviation.ch" <thomas.jaeger@ch-aviation.ch> wrote:

Hi Tobias,

We currently list the following ex-Jet Airways aircraft as stored in Greenwood:

VT-JGB

VT-JNU

VT-JNV

VT-JNW

I do not have the exact dates handy but from what I have been told, they will at least not be returning to Jet Airways. I have heard different stories from plans for scrapping to temporary storage, so would also be interested to find out more.

Best regards and thanks a lot

Thomas Jaeger

ch-aviation GmbH

Flughafenstrasse 6

8302 Kloten
Switzerland

Tel: +41 (0)78 920 01 09
Skype: ThomasSNN

thomas.jaeger@ch-aviation.ch

www.ch-aviation.ch

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From: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com [mailto:cactus-wings@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tobias Lutterodt
Sent: Samstag, 28. Juli 2012 20:14
To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cactuswings 1879] REQ - Jet Airways 737s at Greenwood

Can anyone summarize which Jet Airways 737-700s are now at Greenwood, when they arrived, and which (if any) have a chance at returning to service?

Thanks,

TL
Tobias Lutterodt

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