Thursday 30 May 2013

Re: [cactuswings 2313] Storage & other News

Hi Rossi,

No trouble. Sad indeed, but perhaps not unexpected. With Delta
apparently uninterested in the aircraft AerSale really had no choice
expect the dreaded 'part out' option. AerSale certainly tried their
best to market the aircraft, but with hardly any market to speak of
the fleet clearly faced a grim way ahead.

Thanks for the interesting sales pamphlet info. I note that the hours
done by each aircraft are very similar to the overall cycles. Only two
of the MD90 are not listed for sale by Saudi Arabian, the w/o HZ-APW
and the VIP machine HZ-APF (although this is meant to be part of the
AerSale deal).

Once the engines are gone things don't look very bright for any
aircraft I agree...

I'll keep my ears to the ground and let the group know if I find out
anything else...

Best regards

Jim

> Jim,
>
> Thanks for sharing the updates. This is sad news. It would seem
> that AerSale could not find any operators to purchase or lease the
> aircraft for active service, and thus have perhaps made the decision
> to part-out and sell the scrap. AerSale at one time were
> advertising these aircraft on multiple sites.
>
> Here is an old sales pamphlet just before the MD90s were purchased
> from Saudi. http://saudiamro.com/sales/MD90-30.pdf
>
> As you can see, many aircraft were nowhere near needing a HMV. Not
> looking good that some of these birds have since lost their engines...
>
> Please keep us in the loop with your knowledge.
>
> Regards,
> Rossi
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Jim Tomlinson
> <barrie.ces@virgin.net> wrote:
> Further to the Saudi MD90s, it appears that a number of these are
> currently being parted out. N195AS for sure in one photo and maybe
> one or two others behind N195AS. Others are just minus engines.
>
> A selection of photos from Roswell including the Saudi MD90s can be
> seen at the page below, just scroll down page to locate them
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/aeroprints/with/8736679822/
>
> Cheers
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Hi Paul
>
> I have a scrapping date of 3/04 for N765BE at Roswell (I guess you
> mean this reg?). As mentioned earlier 16 ex Saudia MD90 have arrived
> at Roswell with one more heading across about now to make 17. That
> leaves 8 more to arrive, including old favourite HZ-APF...
>
> The four Saudi MD90 not involved in the AerSale deal must be PWFU I
> guess. At least one unknown (?) Saudi MD90 has already been broken
> up in Saudia Arabia plus HZ-APW won't fly again either...
>
> Cheers
>
> Jim
>
> Alot of these aircraft have flown some of the fleet still are, only
> put to rest past few months, maybe a year plus, think of the MHV
> or Marana aircraft they sit there for a very long time and then fly,
> the saudis have bottom less wallets so paying huge sums of money is
> nothing to them..hopefully they will come to Delta and see service,
> how many have arrive3d at Roswell, I am keen to know, not keen about
> the drive and flights from the UK but if I need them it might just
> happen, one more thing has anybody got a scrapping date on 365BE
> L1011 at ROS please it was my last one, I went to get it but alas it
> had gone or I was bling.. cheers for the info
>
>
> From: Phixer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:46 PM
> To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [cactuswings 2217] Storage & other News
>
>
> My contact in Delta tells me that DAL rejected these aircraft,
> partly because of their condition – several had been sitting in the
> desert for years, partly because the FAA would not approve pilots
> being rated on these and standard MD-90's. The Saudia aircraft have
> a unique glass cockpit which also makes them useless for spares.
> Delta has rejected any thought of other spares recovery.
>
> It is possible that Airbus took on the fleet as part of a purchase
> deal and, presumably, has sold them on to AerSale – which is who the
> aircraft listed below are registered to. From their condition, it
> will be a surprise if they all arrive ROW.
>
>
> Phixer
>
> From: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com [mailto:cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Chris Witt
> Sent: 30-April-2013 11:48
> To: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
> Subject: AW: [cactuswings 2213] Storage & other News
>
> Hi Rafal,
>
> Nothing is known with my Delta Air Lines contact, what is your
> source please
>
> Chris
>
> Von: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com [mailto:cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
> ] Im Auftrag von Rafal S
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. April 2013 19:39
> An: cactus-wings@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [cactuswings 2209] Storage & other News
>
>
> Stefan,
>
> Delta has bought them and they will use them despite having glass
> cockpit.
>
> Take care,
> Rafal
>
> From: S.Krause <cpt_cruise@yahoo.com>
> To: "cactus-wings@googlegroups.com" <cactus-wings@googlegroups.com>
>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [cactuswings 2208] Storage & other News
>
> Hi Dave (& All),
>
> thanks to your update i have noted more and more (ex) Saudia MD90s
> sneaking into ROW.
>
> Are the plans for these to go to the breakers, or will Delta Air
> Lines abosrb them (as so many other MD90s) ?
>
> Regards
> Stefan
>
> From: Dave Richardson <daveuk@cox.net>
> To: cactus wings <cactus-wings@googlegroups.com>
>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 4:29 PM
> Subject: [cactuswings 2207] Storage & other News
>
> Hi all
> This weeks movers.
> Roswell (KROW)
> AAL9609 B752 arr apr 26 from Dallas DFW
> N631AS MD90 arr Apr 22 from Bangor
> N635AS MD90 arr Apr 22 from Bangor
> AAL9655 MD82 arr Apr 21 from Dallas DFW
> AAL9608 B738 dep Apr 25 to Dallas DFW
> N710JM B737 dep Apr 22 to Indianapolis
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